Former CIA officer turned whistleblower John Kiriakou has confirmed that the Central Intelligence Agency operates independently and often undermines U.S. Presidents.
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Kiriakou’s remarks came after he told Tucker about his experience inside the agency.
He also discussed his decision to go public in 2007 with details about the CIA’s interrogation program.
Carlson asked:
“This is another problem.”
“It’s that presidents come and go every four years, every eight years.”
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“So if they don’t like a president or if a president orders them to do something that they don’t want to do, they just wait because they know they can wait him out, and then he’s not going to be president anymore.”
“They can continue on with whatever plan the blob or the deep state wants to implement.”
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Kiriakou noted Trump’s frequent use of the term “deep state.”
He added:
“Donald Trump took a lot of guff in his first term when he used on a regular basis the term ‘deep state.’”
“I argued from the very beginning, it is a deep state.”
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“You can call it the state.”
“But the truth is that it exists.”
Carlson agreed:
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“The people who carry out those orders remain.”
“So, over time, they are the ones with the power.”
Kiriakou also weighed in on changes underway at the CIA.
He discussed the overhaul of internal agency structures.
Watch:
This came after CIA Director John Ratcliffe announced plans to reduce politicization within the agency.
Ratcliffe also pledged to eliminate structural inefficiencies.
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Kiriakou strongly disputed her claim.
He said:
“Reporters went to her and said, ‘Hey, what about this torture program?’ She said, ‘I didn’t know anything about the torture program,’”
“She was lying.”
“I said, and I remember saying it to the New York Times.”
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Kiriakou served at the CIA from 1990 to 2004.
He became publicly known in 2007 after revealing the agency’s use of waterboarding on detainees.
In 2012, he was charged under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.
He was sentenced to 30 months in prison for disclosing the identity of a covert office.
* Original Article:
https://wokespy.com/tucker-carlson-interview-cia-insider-confirms-deep-state-operates-above-the-president/